An eyewitness shares startling video evidence of extraterrestrial activity in Fairbanks, Alaska, and a UFO hunter flies over Alaska's highest mountain in search of a secret underground alien base.
An eyewitness shares startling video evidence of extraterrestrial activity in Fairbanks, Alaska, and a UFO hunter flies over Alaska's highest mountain in search of a secret underground alien base.
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SPEAKER 1: Alaska, a vast remote wilderness twice the size of Texas.
SASCHA AUERBACH:There are dangerous, unpredictable forces at work here.
SPEAKER 1: In one of the most mysterious corners of the globe.
SPEAKER 2: A lot of things can kill you out here without even trying.
SPEAKER 1: This is a place hundreds of times more deadly than the Bermuda Triangle.
JAMES FOX: Oh, my God!
SPEAKER 1: Stories of alien abductions.
JARED
AUGUSTINE:
I believe it was a UFO.
SPEAKER 1: The paranormal vanishing airplanes and strange beasts.
JARED
AUGUSTINE:
The Alaskan Bigfoot, he can rip you in half.
JAMES FOX: These accounts are really widespread.
JARED
AUGUSTINE:
[BLEEP] They picked out of the tree right there.
SPEAKER 1: Have haunted those who dare set foot here. In the last 30 years, 16,000 people have disappeared without a
trace.
JAMES FOX: More people have disappeared than the Bermuda Triangle, two to three times the amount. Witnesses tell us their
shocking stories.
SPEAKER 3: I was petrified.
SPEAKER 1: And we've gathered some of the world's leading experts in their field.
SPEAKER 4: I'm always after scientific evidence that can be independently corroborated.
SPEAKER 1: To try and unlock the mystery of the Alaska Triangle.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
What's causing all the bizarre phenomena of the Alaska Triangle? Could the answer be found here on a remote
mountain far from human civilization? Over half a million square miles of the Alaska Triangle, 16,000 people
missing and one colossal mountain right at its frozen core.
Chilling evidence has now come to light that this ominous, icy peak holds within it a deep dark secret. It sounds
like something from science fiction. But are aliens hard at work deep within this mountain? According to a CIA spy
from the 1970s, the answer is yes.
SASCHA
AUERBACH:
Top secret military programs, psychic spies, and alien bases, plus we have the death of a key witness, is this the
greatest mystery of the Alaska Triangle?
SPEAKER 1: One man who's on a journey to find out the truth is journalist and UFO investigator James Fox. If the aliens are
here, James wants to find them.
JAMES FOX: There has been controversy swirling around for decades as to some sort of secret underground potential alien
base.
SPEAKER 1: The location of the base is said to be inside Mount Hayes.
JAMES FOX: So that's why I'm here to go and check out Mount Hayes and see if any of the accounts over the last several
decades are remotely true.
SPEAKER 1: Across the whole of Alaska, there have been more UFO sightings than in any other US State. Can it be a
coincidence that it's where so many people are disappearing? Many of the most credible sightings come from
near the center of the Alaska Triangle. Jared Augustine is a security officer in Fairbanks, the largest city in the
Triangle's interior. He was on night duty when he saw something in the sky that didn't look right.
JARED
AUGUSTINE:
So the day was May 13, 2016 at 3:00 AM. I was on patrol, being a security officer at the time. And this is where I
actually started filming.
[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC]
Oh, what's that? Oh, wow!
SPEAKER 1: A strange flashing light suddenly split in three.
JARED
AUGUSTINE:
Woah! Scout in the area, I guess. When I saw it split, I was blown away, and I kept watching. And then I did it
again. And I was like, OK, this is legit. Something's going on right here. Oh, wow!
SPEAKER 1: There's no satellite or aircraft that can divide into three like this.
JARED
AUGUSTINE:
I believe it was a UFO of extraterrestrial origin. I was shaking. I was really shaking.
SPEAKER 1: To date, more than 6,500 UFO sightings have been reported in Alaska. One of the most famous was in 1986 when
the crew of a Japanese airline flight watched in horror as two UFOs taunted their plane right in the middle of the
triangle. The captain could even feel the heat of the craft on his face.
Back in 1950, a Douglas C-54 with 44 people on board simply disappeared from the Alaskan skies. Legend has it
that alien activity played a hand. A more recent account in a deserted section of the Triangle describes a
squadron of refers lighting up the skies.
In 2003, electrician Charles Gaines was out on a job part of a team building an exclusive tourist lodge.
CHARLES
GAINES:
We were working on a remote wilderness lodge about 200 miles south by Southeast out of Fairbanks. I stepped
outside, and I was looking at the night sky like I always do. And I started seeing these lights. There was only
three or four of them at first.
But they were high. They were really high and they were traveling fast, very fast. Then I saw more behind them.
Then more behind that. I started calling for the other guys. And they all are kind of stunned. There's just an
endless stream of them.
SPEAKER 1: In Alaska, there have been over 500 reported sightings in the last 20 years alone, about 30 every year. But this
was one of the most spectacular. But what happened next was something well beyond our understanding of
physics.
CHARLES
GAINES:
Then some of them speed up and go ahead of the others, turn around, and come back, and look as though
they're going to run into another one heading straight on. When they came right up to each other, they would
break away at right angles. No slowing down at all. How do they do that? It seemed as though it was an armada,
like it was some kind of giant fleet of these flying ships.
SPEAKER 1: There have also been reports of refers landing in the Alaska Triangle. Jesse Desmond is Alaskan state director for
MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network. She's uncovered one story from the triangle from 1978 that tells of a group of
hikers who saw a UFO that had landed nearby.
JESSIE
DESMOND:
They woke up one morning. They were kind of camped out on a ridge and there was one UFO landed down in the
Valley below. So they went down for a hike down to this location. By the time they kind of got there, the UFO had
gone away.
SPEAKER 1: But the UFO had left behind a grisly scene.
JESSIE
DESMOND:
They not only saw an indentation of swirled natural grasses and small trees and brush, they found carcasses of
lots of animals. We're talking moose, bears, caribou, elk, which are not native to Alaska. And they even found a
15-foot killer whale out in the middle of the woods.
SPEAKER 1: The coast was hundreds of miles away. And even more disturbing, the animals had been horribly mutilated. All
this reported UFO activity has convinced investigator James Fox that the aliens are here.
JAMES FOX: People often ask me why it is I do what I do. And my response to that is with a question. If Earth was being
visited, if it was being visited by an extraterrestrial race, something alien to our species, how significant of a
discovery would you give that? It would be a 10 out of 10, the most significant discovery of all time. And my
response is, well, I'm quite convinced that that's what's happening.
SPEAKER 1: When Fairbanks security officer Jared Augustine posted his video online, it quickly came to James's attention.
Straight away, he made the link with the Charles Gaines sighting. For James, the location was key. Both sightings
are close to the center of Alaska. And that means close to Mount Hayes, the mysterious mountain right at its
heart.
JAMES FOX: Mount Hayes is at the center of the infamous Alaska Triangle. There has been controversy swirling around for
decades as to some sort of secret underground potential alien base.
SPEAKER 1: It's this base that James wants to find. He intends to go to Mount Hayes. And he has good reason to do so. Thanks
in part to the findings of a secret project funded by none other than the US government.
[SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC]
Everyone's heard of the Bermuda Triangle, but there's another place on Earth more remote and even more
curious.
JAMES FOX: I have always had a fascination with the Bermuda Triangle. But when I started to look into the Alaska Triangle,
that started to really make my skin tingle a bit.
SPEAKER 1: And at the heart of the Alaska Triangle lies an ominous foreboding mountain peak standing 14,000 feet high.
More people have been to the top of Mount Everest than have scaled its icy slopes. But it's not the peak that's
drawing the attention of UFO investigators. It's what lies beneath.
In Vancouver, Canada, one leading ufologists has been researching extraterrestrial activity for over 20 years. And
his work has led him to connect the disappearances of the Alaska Triangle and Mount Hayes.
SASCHA
AUERBACH:
Are aliens abducting people in Alaska and experimenting on them? Or are they working to get rid of anybody who
gets too close to the Mount Hayes? Could this be the reason that over 16,000 people have gone missing in the
Alaska Triangle? An alien base inside of Mount Hayes could explain all these strange occurrences. I mean, it can't
be a coincidence that it's right in the center of the Alaska Triangle.
SPEAKER 1: Curiously, a secret government project might lend credence to the theory. In the 1970s, the US recruited
psychics to spy on the Soviet Union. Sascha Auerbach is a historian who's been researching recently released
government files.
SASCHA
AUERBACH:
The belief was that the Soviets were developing a similar project using psychic individuals. And the US decided
that if the Soviets had a project like that, they needed a project of the same type. Project Stargate was started in
1978.
It was based at Fort Meade, Maryland. And it was a collaboration between the US Army and a Research Institute
based in Stanford, California, SRI, the Stanford Research Institute. Stargate was about geolocating individuals
who had the ability to see, or hear, or somehow sense occurrences well out of their physical sensing range.
SPEAKER 1: On the outskirts of Anchorage, Alaska, Dr. Nick Begich is a scientific researcher who specializes in mind control.
NICK BEGICH: So Project Stargate was a project of the Central Intelligence Agency intended to develop spies to go into locations
like nuclear facilities and be able to do it remotely, keeping the body in one place and consciousness somewhere
else. I mean, think about it. I mean, the ultimate spy is one that can show up somewhere. And if you can do that
spiritually, detach from your body, what a deal. I know some of the folks that were involved in that. And it
worked. They did it. It actually worked.
SPEAKER 1: This was the height of the Cold War between the US and the Soviet Union. Both sides would do anything to gain
an advantage. The CIA even had a top secret mind control program called Project MKUltra.
They experimented on human subjects, manipulating their mental states with drugs and sensory deprivation.
And now with Project Stargate, the CIA had psychic spies. But how exactly did it work? The answer can be found
here, a world away from Alaska down in the desert of New Mexico. It's from here that leading psychic Lori
Williams practices what's known as remote viewing.
LORI
WILLIAMS:
Remote viewing is really a technique for getting information anywhere in time and space. It's essentially
connecting to the big cosmic database in the sky. So you can technically visit anywhere in all of space and time,
which makes it a very effective time machine.
SASCHA
AUERBACH:
Probably one of the most gifted remote viewers was a man named Pat Price. He was a Burbank police officer who
showed exceptional gifts and talents in this area.
SPEAKER 1: Pat Price was recruited to Project Stargate and was put to work spying for the CIA. UFO investigator Jeremy Ray
has been looking into Pat story.
JEREMY RAY: Pat Price was deadly accurate on his predictions. They had him checking out Soviet targets. And he would be
able to write down and draw accurately what he saw.
SPEAKER 1: On one of his first assignments, Price was given the coordinates of a secret site deep within the Soviet Union.
JEREMY RAY: Pat Price was able to astro a project to the location and then put the data down on a sheet of paper.
SPEAKER 1: He drew a picture of a gantry crane. His picture matched a secret CIA photo of the same site. But on one
assignment, Price was psychically drawn away from his intended target by what remote viewers call an attractor.
LORI
WILLIAMS:
An attractor can call a viewer to it because it is more interesting. You might be drawn to the noise, the fire, the
emotions at the site that pulls a remote viewer to it.
SPEAKER 1: Price's attractor was Mount Hayes. There was something going on there that he felt compelled to go and
investigate. And what he found there was totally unexpected, an alien base. Now, Lori plans to remotely view
Mount Hayes, and investigator James Fox is making the physical journey.
JAMES FOX: To actually be in Alaska, you just see the soaring mountains. And there's vast open spaces and dense forests as
far as the eye can see. I mean, it's really remote. James is heading to Mount Hayes at the epicenter of the Alaska
Triangle.
It's to here in the 1970s that a CIA spy was psychically drawn. It's possible that what he saw could provide a clue
to the thousands of disappearances that have taken place in the area.
SASCHA
AUERBACH:
One of the things Pat Price discovered up in Mount Hayes was there's this strange device with all these cables
dangling down from it. Price believed that this was some sort of atmospheric monitoring device.
SPEAKER 1: But this was just the start. Next, Price traveled psychically inside the mountain.
JEREMY RAY: Pat Price remote view in Mount Hayes. And he saw a deep underground extraterrestrial base.
JAMES FOX: There was a secret underground alien base at Mount Hayes.
SPEAKER 1: And Price was even able to get a sense of the aliens themselves. Super advanced humanoids, hard at work deep
underground.
JEREMY RAY: The fact that Pat Price worked for Stanford Research Institute and then was later hired on by the CIA to find
Soviet targets give it some credence. I just don't shrug that off as rubbish.
SASCHA
AUERBACH:
I find Pat Price's story completely believable. I mean, this man was a Burbank police officer. He had no reason to
make the story up he was strictly interested in the data.
SPEAKER 1: But the revelations didn't end there.
JEREMY RAY: Price described the humanoids as working side by side with normal humans.
SPEAKER 1: Price didn't say who these humans were. But the investigators had moved on, think they could well have
belonged to the US military.
JESSIE
DESMOND:
Mountain Hayes, in the UFO community, is believed to be a joint military extraterrestrial base.
SPEAKER 1: MUFON's fans Jessie Desmond grew up just 80 miles from Mount Hayes.
JESSIE
DESMOND:
It seems like it'd be an ideal spot because it is very inaccessible. It's really hard to get to.
NICK BEGICH: If your objective was to have a secret underground base, Mount Hayes would be a good place for that. It's very
remote.
SPEAKER 1: Despite the mountain's remoteness, a US military base, Fort Greeley, sits just 38 miles away. And it has strange
tales of its own.
JESSIE
DESMOND:
There have been a lot of sightings around Fort Greeley, and they've had some crazy stories come out of there.
One in particular, an internet contractor had to go on to the roof of a building. And he happened to look out, and
he could see a hangar. And there was a 12-foot something being moved from one hangar to another. And they
had a tarpaulin over it. And it moved in a weird way. He didn't know what it was. It could have been a very tall
alien creature. Who knows?
SPEAKER 1: But what's really needed is more detail from CIA remote viewer Price, the prime witness Except--
JAMES FOX: Unfortunately, Pat Price met his demise in a rather mysterious way. He was found dead in a hotel room in Las
Vegas. His family was never notified before the body was cremated. So it's rather suspicious circumstances of his
death.
SPEAKER 1: Officially, Pat Price had a heart attack. But the details are unclear. In his possession were secret documents
relating to his remote viewing work. The day before his death, Price met with officials from the National Security
Agency. And immediately before his death, he complained of severe stomach cramps.
SASCHA
AUERBACH:
There's a lot of mystery around the death of Pat Price. Could it be that he got too close to figuring out what was
really going on at Mount Hayes? What would the implications be if he were to leak out what was really hidden
inside that mountain? The reports that Pat price made must be out there somewhere. Why is it that we can't
have access to them? What do they reveal? And who's hiding them?
SPEAKER 1: Can any of this really be true, a joint alien military base within Mount Hayes? There could be one way to find out,
a reenactment of the psychic journey of CIA spy Pat Price. Now, under test conditions, top psychic Lori Williams
has been given only the coordinates. She has no additional information. Her husband Jim is joining her to monitor
her heart rate and help record what she sees. It's not long before Lori begins to sense her surroundings.
LORI
WILLIAMS:
Too isolated. To remote. Too cold. I keep seeing white everywhere. The whole time I get white, white, white,
white, white, white, white. Buried deep. Underground. Buried for a reason. It's tunnel-like. This was human-like.
Vastly intelligent. Cunning. Scientifically advanced. I feel like there's a dissection. Experimentation. Research.
Gosh, I'm getting a little bit worried about writing all this stuff down and having this all on camera.
SPEAKER 1: So far, Lori's session has been a good match for Pat Price's original testimony. Now, is Lori able to get a sense of
the alien's true purpose?
LORI
WILLIAMS:
Extracting. I feel like there's some extracting going on of needed materials. There's something about the Earth
itself, the planet itself that is providing a need that they have.
SPEAKER 1: If any of this is true, it needs investigating on the ground. James Fox is on his way. He wants to find scientific
evidence and is now heading deep into the Alaska Triangle. For James, there's just one destination.
JAMES FOX: We're on our way to Denali National Park, where we're going to pick up an airplane and fly to Mount Hayes.
SPEAKER 1: It's the largest state in the US but has one of the shortest total amounts of road. So James is meeting up with
Bush pilot Eric Rove.
JAMES FOX: Hey, you must be Eric.
ERIC ROVE: I am. James, good to meet you.
JAMES FOX: You would take me to Mount Hayes?
ERIC ROVE: Let's do it. Let's go.
SPEAKER 1: From here, the journey to Mount Hayes is 90 miles over the toughest terrain in Alaska. Flying in Alaska is so
dangerous that about 100 aircraft crash in the state every year.
ERIC ROVE: Traffic scout wagon. Five Alpha Romeo's depart. 1133. Yeah, right turn out.
SPEAKER 1: The mountains of the Alaska Triangle are among the most dangerous places on Earth. But one mountain right in
the middle could pose a very special threat.
SASCHA
AUERBACH:
An alien base in the center of the Alaska Triangle. In my opinion, there are dangerous, unpredictable forces at
work here.
SPEAKER 1: UFO investigator James Fox and Bush pilot Eric Rove are now heading straight for Mount Hayes.
JAMES FOX: Well, you really get an idea of the sheer vastness of this area from the air.
ERIC ROVE: Where we're going is we're 80, 90 miles away from the nearest town. You're out in the middle of nowhere.
JAMES FOX: As I'm looking down here, there's no indication of mankind at all.
ERIC ROVE: Alaska is one of the few places that there's still a wild country that hasn't had a human touch on it.
JAMES FOX: It looks like it. Wow. This is incredible.
SPEAKER 1: If Eric and James had to crash land, there'd be no way out. The heart of the Triangle is of the most hostile
environments on Earth.
JAMES FOX: Wow! This is phenomenal . Just mind boggling.
SPEAKER 1: At last, the towering mass of Mount Hayes looms into view.
JAMES FOX: Oh, my God! We're flying right towards Mount Hayes right now. Oh, my gosh! That is absolutely surreal. That is
colossal. I'm looking down for any indication of artificial structures. Beds, drawers, ports, anything that would
indicate civilization. So far, I see nothing. But vast wilderness as far as the eye can see.
SPEAKER 1: Then the clouds begin to close in.
JAMES FOX: We've got some weather here.
ERIC ROVE: Wow! Just the vastness and the remoteness doesn't keep anybody else out here. The weather sure does.
JAMES FOX: That is zero visibility as far as I can tell.
ERIC ROVE: Yeah, same here.
SPEAKER 1: Out here, flying with no visibility is suicidal. But James spots an opening in the cloud.
JAMES FOX: Is that a glacier down there to the right?
ERIC ROVE: Yep, it's glacier.
SPEAKER 1: Eric can't fly too close to the mountain. So he's going to try to land on the glacier.
JAMES FOX: Now, those fissures, the glacier down there.
ERIC ROVE: A crevasse.
JAMES FOX: Crevasse. Yeah, we definitely don't want to land in a crevasse. I'll tell you that much.
ERIC ROVE: No, sir.
JAMES FOX: I mean, could a crevasse like that swallow up a plane?
ERIC ROVE: Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah. You could hide a city bus in there, you'd never know. So the size of a man-made door, you
got your work cut out for you, James.
[MUSIC PLAYING]
SPEAKER 1: If the remote viewers are right, underneath this glacier could be a secret alien base. As they come into land, the
audio fails.
[AUDIO STATIC]
JAMES FOX: Really impressed. My God! We are literally in the middle of nowhere. Wow! Hey, how far are we from civilization?
ERIC ROVE: About 90 miles from Healy.
JAMES FOX: So we're not making it out of here without the airplane?
ERIC ROVE: No. No. You're not walking out of here.
JAMES FOX: [WHISTLES] Boy, this is about as remote as I've ever been. That's for sure.
ERIC ROVE: [LAUGHS]
JAMES FOX: I can't believe we just landed on a glacier. That was unbelievable.
SPEAKER 1: James plans to scour the surface for any unusual signs of activity.
ERIC ROVE: All right. You're on your own. Well, good luck, James.
JAMES FOX: Thank you.
ERIC ROVE: I hope you find something before they find you.
JAMES FOX: Well, here we are, in the middle of nowhere. Well, if you're going to hide something, this would be a pretty good
place to do it.
SPEAKER 1: It's isolated and remote. In fact, it could be the exact spot that Lori found herself while remote viewing.
LORI
WILLIAMS:
Too isolated. Too remote. And too cold. Wherever I was felt very cold, very icy, and very flat and expanisve.
SPEAKER 1: Suddenly, flat in the middle of a mountain range begins to make sense. Here, the glacier is so flat it becomes a
Bush pilot's runway.
JAMES FOX: I'm sure to go to a good vantage point. I brought some binoculars. I brought some electromagnetic gear.
SPEAKER 1: If Lori is right, James could right now be walking in the footsteps of aliens.
LORI
WILLIAMS:
There was an area off to my left that was raised and rounded. And it felt like it was an entrance to these tunnels.
SPEAKER 1: There are more glaciers in Alaska than in the rest of the world put together. But under this glacier, right in the
middle of the Alaska Triangle, investigator James Fox has reason to believe there could be a secret alien base.
JAMES FOX: Well, this is about as good as a vantage point as I could imagine. I'm just going to basically look for anything I
can find that would be remotely artificial, any vents, doors, any structures, anything artificial, basically.
SPEAKER 1: If the base is here, then our UFO abductions behind all the mysterious disappearances in the Triangle.
JAMES FOX: It's kind of an eerie feeling, Especially knowing that I could never hike out of here on my own. So far, I see a lot of
snow and ice. I'm also seeing some weather coming in.
SPEAKER 1: James's is electromagnetic reader should detect if there's any unnatural background activity. This could be the
sign of an alien presence.
JAMES FOX: I'm not detecting anything more than what seems to be normal background.
ERIC ROVE (ON
RADIO):
James, let's go.
SPEAKER 1: Before James can do any more investigating, Eric calls him back to the plane. They need to get out before the
weather makes taking off impossible. James hasn't found the aliens. But it's simply impossible to see beneath the
mountain.
From the surface, Lori's remote viewing is uncannily accurate. How could she sense this flatness in the middle of
the mountains? Is there then any reason to doubt what she saw within the mountain? And the abilities of CIA
remote viewer Pat Price were well established. Why would he invent this elaborate story? For all we know, his
incredible revelations could be just the tip of the iceberg.
SASCHA
AUERBACH:
I believe there's so much secrecy behind Mount Hayes because of what's inside of it, because of who's inside of it
and the types of technology they have. Whatever Pat Price witnessed, it's not all in the past. He was onto
something big.
[AIRPLANE HOVERING]
SPEAKER 1: Taking off from a glacier takes all the skills of an experienced pilot. Eric only has one chance. Now, all that's left
is to reveal to Lori a genuine representation of the area she psychically visited.
LORI
WILLIAMS:
Yeah. Yeah, that looks pretty much like what I saw. It's very similar. Yes, especially as it comes around, and
there's shots there. It's like I was standing like right here. And that's what was off to my left. Yeah. That's the
place. This is very-- where did you get this? This is so cool.
SPEAKER 1: For James, for now, Mount Hayes is behind him. The weather saw him off, or was it the Alaska Triangle itself?
JAMES FOX: The pilot suddenly butted in and said, we've got bad weather coming in. It's time to leave. So I thought it best to
terminate the investigation, get in the airplane, and get out of there. The sheer vastness of that location, if there
was something to hide, that would be the place to do it.
SPEAKER 1: Without a scientific survey of the inside of Mount Hayes, it's impossible to know for sure if the alien base exists.
For now, it remains a secret. But an alien base would certainly explain the many UFO sightings in this wilderness.
The man who knew more than anyone else is no longer with us. And meanwhile, the UFO reports continue to
come in.
JAMES FOX: Whoa!
SPEAKER 1: Then people keep on disappearing. We can only imagine what's really going on here in the frozen heart of the
Alaska Triangle.
[MUSIC PLAYING]